{"id":1531,"date":"2021-05-22T11:21:21","date_gmt":"2021-05-22T18:21:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/development.moviemaker.com\/?p=2473"},"modified":"2023-01-31T05:26:09","modified_gmt":"2023-01-31T13:26:09","slug":"the-importance-of-intention","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/the-importance-of-intention\/","title":{"rendered":"The Importance of Intention"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"5\" width=\"80\" align=\"right\">\n<tr>\n<td height=\"131\">\n<h5 class=\"text\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/hop\/issues\/07\/images\/Heist.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"166\" border=\"1\" align=\"bottom\" alt=\"Heist\" \/><\/h5>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"0\" class=\"caption\"><i>Heist<\/i><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p class=\"text\">Film editor Barbara Tulliver had at one time contemplated<br \/>\n  a career in theater. She studied lighting design for the stage and<br \/>\n  later got the chance to ply her craft in summer stock and numerous<br \/>\n  off-off Broadway productions. Her move to the cutting room came<br \/>\n  quite by chance, but there she found a creative outlet that suited<br \/>\n  her-a good match for the critical training gained in the lighting<br \/>\n  booth. Starting in commercials as an assistant editor, she stepped<br \/>\n  over into features and did her time as an apprentice, finally assisting<br \/>\n  on such films as David Mamet&#8217;s <i>House of Games <\/i>in 1987 and<br \/>\n  Milos Forman&#8217;s <i>Valmont<\/i> in 1989.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\">When Mamet&#8217;s regular editor Trudy Ship was unavailable<br \/>\n  to work on <i>Homicide<\/i> (1991), Barbara, by then a familiar face<br \/>\n  in Mamet&#8217;s company, got her big break when he invited her to cut<br \/>\n  the picture herself. Since then she has edited a steady stream of<br \/>\n  films for the prolific writer\/director, including <i>Oleanna<\/i> (1994), <i>The Spanish Prisoner<\/i> (1997), <i>The Winslow Boy<\/i> (1999), <i>State and Main<\/i> (2000) and this season&#8217;s latest, <i>Heist<\/i>.<br \/>\n  She also cut <i>Hard Eight<\/i> for Paul Thomas Anderson in 1997<br \/>\n  and is currently in production on M. Night Shyamalan&#8217;s new picture, <i>Signs<\/i>, slated for release in 2002.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>Phillip Williams (MM):<\/b> <i>Do you think that,<br \/>\n  since <\/i>Homicide<i>, David Mamet&#8217;s approach to working with an<br \/>\n    editor has evolved at all?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>Barbara Tulliver (BT):<\/b> No, I think it was a<br \/>\n  great transition. When he did <i>House of Games<\/i>-his first film-he<br \/>\n  worked with Trudy Ship; they had a great relationship and it evolved<br \/>\n  in such way that when I came in, I worked so similarly to Trudy<br \/>\n  (having been her assistant)-all the things that we did were identical.<br \/>\n  As David and I worked together we developed a way of working that<br \/>\n  has a certain shorthand. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s changed much, but again,<br \/>\n  he&#8217;s only had me and Trudy to work with.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Mamet seems to be someone who thinks<br \/>\n  a great deal about the moviemaking process ahead of time. Is the<br \/>\n  approach that you&#8217;re going to take fairly well thought out before<br \/>\n  you enter the cutting room? Has he given you specific notes to follow<br \/>\n  or do you start out bringing your own take to the material?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>BT:<\/b> Yeah, I give it my own take and then we<br \/>\n  work together. I sit in on dailies and he&#8217;ll tell me his thoughts.<br \/>\n  He&#8217;ll give me performance choices-but I think [at that point] he&#8217;s<br \/>\n  so concentrated on shooting, (which at that point most directors<br \/>\n  are), that I have that opportunity to give him my own take. This<br \/>\n  is just in terms of giving him a good first cut, rather than cutting<br \/>\n  anything out of the picture. Then he can get a really good feel<br \/>\n  for the film and we go in and begin working together. We&#8217;re very<br \/>\n  open with each other. For me it&#8217;s a rewarding experience because<br \/>\n  we have a great dialogue with each other and we&#8217;re very open to<br \/>\n  trying out whatever will work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Do you request shots from time to time<br \/>\n  during production to make a given scene work?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>BT:<\/b> Yes, and I would do that with any director.<br \/>\n  I think David expects that from me. If something isn&#8217;t working,<br \/>\n  I&#8217;ll show it to him and we&#8217;ll talk about it. It&#8217;s always hard to<br \/>\n  cover completely everything that you may need. Nobody likes re-shooting<br \/>\n  (laughs), so you try to get everything that&#8217;s needed before you<br \/>\n  get to the cutting room.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Does David work with storyboards?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>BT:<\/b> No. He may storyboard some sequences, but<br \/>\n  not the whole film, though he did earlier on [in his career]. Not<br \/>\n  since I&#8217;ve worked with him as an editor, though. We talk a lot about<br \/>\n  the script beforehand; he&#8217;ll be very generous and say &#8220;Read the<br \/>\n  script, and if anything&#8217;s going to end up on the editing room floor,<br \/>\n  let me know so that we don&#8217;t have to shoot it. We only have seven<br \/>\n  weeks (laughs) so I don&#8217;t want to waste my time.&#8217; And of course<br \/>\n  we agree sometimes and don&#8217;t agree other times.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Was <\/i>Heist<i> unique for you as an<br \/>\n  editor in any way? <\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>BT:<\/b> It was unique because there was a lot more<br \/>\n  that David was able to do because he had a larger shooting schedule<br \/>\n  and a larger budget, which made it possible for him to do a lot<br \/>\n  more things; he was able to provide a lot more to cut with. On a<br \/>\n  low budget film, when you&#8217;re doing 30 set ups a day, you don&#8217;t have<br \/>\n  much time, and you have to be very particular about what you give<br \/>\n  your time to or not. So [on <i>Heist<\/i>], he was able to cover<br \/>\n  things a little differently than he had in the past; the opportunity<br \/>\n  was there. That was great for both of us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>It&#8217;s interesting that you mention low<br \/>\n  budgets, as a film like <\/i>The Winslow Boy<i> doesn&#8217;t look like<br \/>\n    there was any lack of money.<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>BT:<\/b> But when you think about it, it&#8217;s one set,<br \/>\n  really. For four weeks we shot in one house, with four or five characters.<br \/>\n  That cuts down your budget right there.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Watching a Mamet film, you feel like<br \/>\n  he has been a great student of film-that he has looked at the work<br \/>\n  of other moviemakers, like Hitchcock, and absorbed lessons from<br \/>\n  their work. <\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>BT:<\/b> He has an enormous amount of knowledge,<br \/>\n  seen an enormous amount of films and read a great deal of literature.<br \/>\n  He knows a lot; he&#8217;s a great &#8216;studier.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Were multiple cameras used a good deal<br \/>\n  on <\/i>Heist<i>?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>BT:<\/b> Quite a bit, because there were several<br \/>\n  action sequences and a lot B camera footage was necessary. Or, if<br \/>\n  they had a short amount of time to shoot a scene, they&#8217;d use a B<br \/>\n  camera to speed up shooting.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Considering that this was the first<br \/>\n  action film for both you and David, did you look to any other films<br \/>\n  for reference<\/i>?<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>BT:<\/b> No, I&#8217;ve seen a lot of action\/adventure<br \/>\n  films. I like them, but here I was really just looking at what David<br \/>\n  gave me to cut. I don&#8217;t think that I studied any more than that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Did you find yourself cutting out a<br \/>\n  lot of material, or was there a fairly tight ratio between what<br \/>\n  was shot and what you used?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>BT:<\/b> I think there was a pretty close relationship.<br \/>\n  We ended up cutting out some things that in the end we thought weren&#8217;t<br \/>\n  working because either the stunt didn&#8217;t work, or the gag didn&#8217;t<br \/>\n  work or we didn&#8217;t need it because of everything else that was going<br \/>\n  on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> Heist<i> involves a pretty manageable cast<br \/>\n  in terms of size. Would it be true to say that the more characters<br \/>\n  in a film the harder your job is as an editor?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>BT:<\/b> No.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>So, with something like <\/i>Oleanna, <i>where there are only a few characters, is the challenge to keep<br \/>\n  the film moving and keep people interested?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>BT:<\/b> With two characters like that, yes. It&#8217;s<br \/>\n  really hard trying to create shots. We talked a lot about trying<br \/>\n  to keep the camera moving as much as possible so that you&#8217;re not<br \/>\n  just stuck in a ping pong match of two people exchanging dialogue.<br \/>\n  That had to be very carefully crafted; that was really, really hard.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\">But really the challenge for me is just telling David&#8217;s<br \/>\n  story, or anybody&#8217;s story, in just the way they want it to be told,<br \/>\n  no matter the of characters. I mean, David writes characters so<br \/>\n  well, it&#8217;s all so well integrated that, in a film like <i>State<br \/>\n    and Main<\/i>, with its many story lines, it&#8217;s all so well-crafted<br \/>\n  that it makes sense as we go in and out of people&#8217;s lives. He choreographs<br \/>\n  really well from the get-go.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>Filmography for Barbara Tulliver<\/b> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><i>Heist <\/i>(2001) <br \/>\n    <i>State and Main <\/i>(2000) <br \/>\n    <i>Story of a Bad Boy <\/i>(1999) <br \/>\n    <i>The Winslow Boy <\/i>(1999) <br \/>\n    <i>The Spanish Prisoner<\/i> (1997) <br \/>\n    <i>Hard Eight <\/i>(1997)<br \/>\n    <i>Oleanna <\/i>(1994) <br \/>\n    <i>Where the Rivers Flow North <\/i>(1993) <br \/>\n    <i>Homicide<\/i> (1991) <br \/>\n    <i>Valmont <\/i>(1989) <br \/>\n    <i>Things Change <\/i>(1988) <br \/>\n    <i>Hello Again <\/i>(1987) <br \/>\n    <i>House of Games <\/i>(1987) <br \/>\n    <i>Places in the Heart <\/i>(1984)<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Heist Film editor Barbara Tulliver had at one time contemplated a career in theater. 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