{"id":1538,"date":"2021-05-22T11:22:16","date_gmt":"2021-05-22T18:22:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/development.moviemaker.com\/?p=2465"},"modified":"2023-01-31T05:26:18","modified_gmt":"2023-01-31T13:26:18","slug":"the-peak-experiences-of-pip-karmel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/the-peak-experiences-of-pip-karmel\/","title":{"rendered":"The Peak Experiences of Pip Karmel"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"5\" width=\"80\" align=\"left\">\n<tr>\n<td height=\"231\">\n<p class=\"text\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/hop\/issues\/06\/images\/PipRavineSet.jpg\" width=\"186\" height=\"277\" border=\"1\" align=\"bottom\" alt=\"Pip Karmel\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><span class=\"text\">Writer\/director Pip Karmel&#8217;s debut<br \/>\n  feature, <i>Me, Myself, I<\/i>, starring the delightful Rachel Griffiths,<br \/>\n  established this Australian moviemaker as someone who can deliver<br \/>\n  the goods. Solid direction, a good script: just what we&#8217;ve come<br \/>\n  to expect from one of Australia&#8217;s small but impressive band of auteurs.<br \/>\n  Though the Australian film industry is not a large one, there&#8217;s<br \/>\n  certainly no lack of talent brewing down under.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\">Like many of her mates, Pip<br \/>\n  studied at Australia&#8217;s National Film School. Starting out as<br \/>\n  an assistant editor, she went to film school in order to put<br \/>\n  herself on the fast track to becoming a proper film editor.<br \/>\n  It was there that she met director Scott Hicks, who invited<br \/>\n  Pip to take some time off from school and cut his first feature, <i>Sebastian and The Sparrow<\/i>. With that under her belt,<br \/>\n  Pip returned to film school determined to become a director<br \/>\n  herself, which she has accomplished. Along the way, she has<br \/>\n  returned to the editing chair twice &#8212; both times for friend<br \/>\n  Scott Hicks &#8212; to cut his break through picture <i>Shine<\/i>,<br \/>\n  and his most recent outing, <i>Hearts In Atlantis<\/i>, starring<br \/>\n  the resplendent Anthony Hopkins.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Was <\/i>Hearts<br \/>\n  In Atlantis <i>unique in any way as an artistic challenge? And<br \/>\n    how does it compare to a movie like Shine?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>PK:<\/b> Shine was full<br \/>\n  of music; it was a different animal with its own challenges. The reason I did <i>Hearts In Atlantis<\/i> was that, a)<br \/>\n  I like working with Scott &#91;Hicks&#93; and b) he offered<br \/>\n  me the job at a point where the timing was perfect. I<br \/>\n  hadn&#8217;t edited anything since Shine and I&#8217;ve been concentrating<br \/>\n  on my directing career. I just had my first feature released.<br \/>\n  At about the same time, I had my first baby. When Scott rang<br \/>\n  me up the baby was about three months old. It was a great<br \/>\n  opportunity to do something wonderful while my baby is still<br \/>\n  small. I didn&#8217;t think I&#8217;d be able to direct anything at that<br \/>\n  point, and it&#8217;s always a delight working with Scott. And the<br \/>\n  film has Anthony Hopkins in it &#8212; so altogether it was a sort<br \/>\n  of high-end experience. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>How do you prepare<br \/>\n  as an editor? Do you read the script and make notes before<br \/>\n  you begin?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>PK:<\/b> I read the script<br \/>\n  a couple of times. Scott usually makes fun of me because<br \/>\n  I don&#8218;t read the script too much (laughs). Once I&#8217;ve read<br \/>\n  it, I just virtually put it away; I&#8217;m only working with the<br \/>\n  material that&#8217;s being shot. Occasionally I might forget<br \/>\n  what&#8217;s supposed to be happening, but if you can&#8217;t get the film<br \/>\n  out of the material that &#8216;s being shot&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b><i> &#8230;you&#8217;re in<br \/>\n  trouble&#8230;<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>PK:<\/b> You&#8217;re in trouble! And the script &#8212; while I respect the script absolutely<br \/>\n  &#8212; once the director has done the job of putting it on film,<br \/>\n  I think you&#8217;ve got to work &#91;with that&#93;. The raw material<br \/>\n  for an editor is the footage; even if something looks good on<br \/>\n  paper sometimes it works differently on film.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Are there ever<br \/>\n  occasions where a scene has been shot and you request more footage? <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>PK:<\/b> Yes, occasionally.<br \/>\n  And very occasionally Scott would ask, if I was on-set,<br \/>\n  for me to check something, and then tell me, jokingly, that<br \/>\n  I&#8217;m responsible for it if it doesn&#8217;t work. (laughs) There<br \/>\n  are always scenes where another shot or two might help, but<br \/>\n  often you find that the longer you live with something,<br \/>\n  you can make it work. By the time the crew has gone back<br \/>\n  to do the pick up shots, you&#8217;ve made it work without them. It&#8217;s<br \/>\n  amazing what you don&#8217;t need. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Do you have<br \/>\n  any conscious sense of working with the production design when<br \/>\n  you cut? There&#8217;s always a lot of atmosphere in a Scott Hicks<br \/>\n  film; in Shine, water is a main theme: a fish tank in<br \/>\n  the foreground, rain, a water hose, the bath tub, the shower,<br \/>\n  the swimming pool, water from a sprinkle splashed on a car windshield.<br \/>\n  Do you consider any of that when you edit?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>PK:<\/b> That&#8217;s been worked<br \/>\n  out before it gets to me. If there is a scene like that<br \/>\n  in the film, I guess you could cut it in a way that diminishes<br \/>\n  it, but my main concern is the story; I don&#8217;t look at much else.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>In <\/i>Hearts<br \/>\n  In Atlantis<i>, how significantly might the narrative shift<br \/>\n    if you took out a given shot, or put one back in?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>PK:<\/b> Well, I think in<br \/>\n  all films there are, not so much with a particular shot, but<br \/>\n  scenes, that whether when left in or taken out can shift the<br \/>\n  general direction of the film, depending on how plot-heavy it<br \/>\n  is. In something like <i>Shine<\/i> or <i>Hearts In Atlantis<\/i>,<br \/>\n  where the story&#8217;s told mostly in flashback, you&#8217;ve always got<br \/>\n  the framing scenes at the beginning and the end. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\">In <i>Shine<\/i>, there was<br \/>\n  a scene shot for the beginning that ultimately wasn&#8217;t used;<br \/>\n  in <i>Hearts In Atlantis <\/i>there was always that possibility<br \/>\n  as well &#8212; that you might not want to use those first and last<br \/>\n  scenes that wrap around the film. &nbsp;But that&#8217;s the<br \/>\n  point of editing. &nbsp;There&#8217;s something about sitting<br \/>\n  and watching something for an hour and a half; it&#8217;s an intangible<br \/>\n  thing, but you get certain impressions that maybe on paper were<br \/>\n  really clear and become more open to interpretation when they&#8217;re<br \/>\n  on film; they are very different animals. The writer might be<br \/>\n  perfectly happy with the script and think, oh, it works perfectly,<br \/>\n  but then there are so many factors that come into play when<br \/>\n  it comes to film that the effect can be completely different. &nbsp;The way a scene is blocked out, the way the actors<br \/>\n  interpret their roles, and then there&#8217;s always the things that<br \/>\n  happen on the day you shoot, and time constraints when you&#8217;re<br \/>\n  filming it. I guess that&#8217;s what makes it exciting.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>With Anthony<br \/>\n  Hopkins, there seems to be so much that he can do without actually<br \/>\n  speaking. He expresses so much with a gesture or a glance.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>PK:<\/b> Yes, it&#8217;s wonderful<br \/>\n  to edit material with actors like that; there&#8217;s a lot going<br \/>\n  on in their eyes. But when he opens his mouth it&#8217;s golden, as<br \/>\n  well. It&#8217;s beautiful material to work with, and kind<br \/>\n  of an honor to edit material with an actor of that caliber. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Has working<br \/>\n  as an editor affected your work as a screenwriter?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>PK:<\/b> Oh, yes. I&#8217;m seeing<br \/>\n  it in my head more clearly; I think I understand what you don&#8217;t<br \/>\n  need to write &#8212; hopefully I do, anyway &#8212; and the kind of transitions<br \/>\n  that you need to make in a film. It&#8217;s not like writing prose,<br \/>\n  and there&#8217;s no point writing some things because you can&#8217;t see<br \/>\n  them when you shoot them. Often a writer will write something<br \/>\n  that you can&#8217;t shoot as a director.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>MM:<\/b> <i>Internal thought<br \/>\n  processes?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text\"><b>PK:<\/b> Yes. I get not<br \/>\n  to write that kind of stuff (laughs). <\/span><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Writer\/director Pip Karmel&#8217;s debut feature, Me, Myself, I, starring the delightful Rachel Griffiths, established this Australian moviemaker as someone who [&hellip;]","protected":false},"author":1641,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rank_math_lock_modified_date":false,"disable_comments":false,"tpd_featured_posts_arr":"","hide_featured_img_single_post":false,"msn_featured_video":[],"_msn_custom_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[89],"tags":[],"feeds":[],"class_list":["post-1538","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-articles-editing"],"primary_category":{"term_id":89,"name":"Articles - Editing","slug":"articles-editing","taxonomy":"category","url":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/category\/archives\/moviemaking\/editing\/articles-editing\/"},"thumbnail":false,"fimg_url_thumb":false,"featured_img_medium":false,"author_name":"Tim Molloy","author_avatar":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/cdn-cgi\/image\/width=100,height=100,fit=crop,quality=80,format=auto,onerror=redirect,metadata=none\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/IMG_1078.jpg","author_link":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/author\/tim-molloy\/","post_categories":["Articles - Editing"],"parsely":{"version":"1.1.0","meta":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"The Peak Experiences of Pip Karmel","url":"http:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/the-peak-experiences-of-pip-karmel\/","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"http:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/the-peak-experiences-of-pip-karmel\/"},"thumbnailUrl":"","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":""},"articleSection":"Articles - Editing","author":[{"@type":"Person","name":"Tim Molloy"}],"creator":["Tim Molloy"],"publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"MovieMaker Magazine","logo":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/mm_site_logo-2.svg"},"keywords":[],"dateCreated":"2021-05-22T18:22:16Z","datePublished":"2021-05-22T18:22:16Z","dateModified":"2023-01-31T13:26:18Z"},"rendered":"<script type=\"application\/ld+json\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@type\":\"NewsArticle\",\"headline\":\"The Peak Experiences of Pip Karmel\",\"url\":\"http:\\\/\\\/www.moviemaker.com\\\/the-peak-experiences-of-pip-karmel\\\/\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"http:\\\/\\\/www.moviemaker.com\\\/the-peak-experiences-of-pip-karmel\\\/\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"url\":\"\"},\"articleSection\":\"Articles - Editing\",\"author\":[{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"name\":\"Tim Molloy\"}],\"creator\":[\"Tim Molloy\"],\"publisher\":{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"name\":\"MovieMaker Magazine\",\"logo\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.moviemaker.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2023\\\/01\\\/mm_site_logo-2.svg\"},\"keywords\":[],\"dateCreated\":\"2021-05-22T18:22:16Z\",\"datePublished\":\"2021-05-22T18:22:16Z\",\"dateModified\":\"2023-01-31T13:26:18Z\"}<\/script>","tracker_url":"https:\/\/cdn.parsely.com\/keys\/moviemaker.com\/p.js"},"amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1538"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1641"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1538"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1538\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1538"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1538"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1538"},{"taxonomy":"feeds","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/feeds?post=1538"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}