{"id":1548,"date":"2021-05-22T11:22:16","date_gmt":"2021-05-22T18:22:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/development.moviemaker.com\/?p=2455"},"modified":"2023-01-31T05:26:32","modified_gmt":"2023-01-31T13:26:32","slug":"master-of-the-hidden-cut","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/master-of-the-hidden-cut\/","title":{"rendered":"Master of the Hidden Cut"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"5\" width=\"33\" align=\"right\">\n<tr>\n<td height=\"0\">\n<div align=\"right\"><span class=\"text\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/hop\/issues\/05\/images\/editing.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"112\" border=\"1\" align=\"bottom\" alt=\"Lawrence of Arabia\" \/><\/span><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p class=\"text\">During her more than 50 years in the craft, film editor<br \/>\n  Anne Coates has been a stealth collaborator and ally to many of<br \/>\n  the world&#8217;s finest directors including Sidney Lumet, David Lynch,<br \/>\n  Milos Forman, Lawrence Kasdan and Steven Soderbergh. She has left<br \/>\n  her mark on a remarkable catalogue of films that contains more gems<br \/>\n  than the crown jewels of merry old England. Starting with <em>The<br \/>\n    Pickwick Papers<\/em> in 1954, Coates went on to edit such films<br \/>\n  as <em>The Horse&#8217;s Mouth<\/em>, <em>Lawrence of Arabia<\/em> (for<br \/>\n  which she won an Oscar), <em>Becket<\/em>, <em>The Elephant Man<\/em>, <em>Ragtime<\/em>, <em>Chaplin<\/em>, <em>In The Line of Fire<\/em>, <em>Out of Sight<\/em> and <em>Erin Brockovich<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\">Easygoing and totally unpretentious, Anne Coates is<br \/>\n  mindful of her good fortune, and will quickly tell you how lucky<br \/>\n  she is. Still, while luck may have played its part in her success,<br \/>\n  it can&#8217;t possibly sustain a career marked by such a consistent level<br \/>\n  of excellence. Not one to sit around and analyze how she does what<br \/>\n  she does, Coates is more or less an intuitive artist. Her creativity<br \/>\n  comes forward in the thick of the process. Currently on the set<br \/>\n  of Adrian Lyne&#8217;s <em>Unfaithful<\/em>, she talked about her Lawrence,<br \/>\n  Lean and getting off the ground in the unforgettable Red Shoes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>:<i> You like to spend time on the set when<br \/>\n  cutting a picture. Why is that? <\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: Watching the director work helps me hugely<br \/>\n  because generally they don&#8217;t have the time to tell you what they&#8217;re<br \/>\n  thinking when they are in dailies or rushing from one place to another.<br \/>\n  But when you see them on the floor they&#8217;ll often come up and talk<br \/>\n  to you about the scene they&#8217;re doing. You see them directing the<br \/>\n  artists, so you see what they don&#8217;t like and even though you don&#8217;t<br \/>\n  necessarily hear what they&#8217;re saying you can see the difference<br \/>\n  in the performances.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>: <i>When you think about your early work,<br \/>\n  what are some of things you remember learning?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: Well I was lucky with the first film that<br \/>\n  I worked on as an assistant which was called <em>End of The River<\/em>,<br \/>\n  which Mickey Powell and Emerich Pressburger produced because, unfortunately<br \/>\n  for the editor, they didn&#8217;t like his work very much so Regi Mills,<br \/>\n  who was at that time cutting <em>The Red Shoes<\/em> &#8211; and one of<br \/>\n  the top editors in the world &#8211; took it over.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\">And, for some reason, he didn&#8217;t want the first assistant<br \/>\n  to go up with him with the film. He wanted the second assistant,<br \/>\n  which was me. So I worked directly with him and of course learned<br \/>\n  a huge amount about editing, about storytelling and what was important.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>: <i>When you&#8217;re working in different genres<br \/>\n  do you find that your approach to the cutting changes?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: I think so yes. I try very hard not to<br \/>\n  have a style, though I&#8217;m sure that to some extent everybody has<br \/>\n  a style. I like cutting quickly, and certainly today, the way stories<br \/>\n  are told, you can do that more and more; it&#8217;s the influence of music<br \/>\n  videos and commercials. I worked with a director some years ago<br \/>\n  who was very slow &#8211; having come from theater &#8211; and I actually recommended<br \/>\n  that he go and do a few commercials and learn to tell a story in<br \/>\n  a minute, because I think that&#8217;s wonderful training. It&#8217;s wonderful<br \/>\n  training for editors too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>: <i>Having worked with so many outstanding<br \/>\n  directors, what sort of advice might you give to new directors.<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: People storyboard a lot these days and<br \/>\n  pre-visualize the way they see a scene going &#8211; which is commendable,<br \/>\n  I like that &#8211; but you&#8217;ve always got to allow for the fact that when<br \/>\n  you get the whole film together, a given scene may be too long or<br \/>\n  extraneous; you may find that it says what another scene later on<br \/>\n  says, so that you want to cut it down or use it in another place.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>:<i> How much time do you think you spend<br \/>\n  cutting versus just thinking about the film?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: That&#8217;s interesting. I never really thought<br \/>\n  about it. They&#8217;re interlocked with each other. I think about a scene<br \/>\n  before I start it and then, if I don&#8217;t like the way it&#8217;s going,<br \/>\n  I&#8217;ll stop and rethink it. For me, a lot of the thinking time comes<br \/>\n  as I cut. I&#8217;m quite fast on the machine, but I can&#8217;t fly as some<br \/>\n  people can. Though I cut quite fast, so I can think as I work. I<br \/>\n  came up working that way &#8211; with time to think, to talk to the director<br \/>\n  &#8211; but you don&#8217;t see that as much these days. I sit with my back<br \/>\n  to the director, who will sit. Steven Soderbergh used to lie back<br \/>\n  on the sofa a lot of the time and talk to me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\">I find a lack of communication is not good. Just chatting<br \/>\n  is good, it doesn&#8217;t necessary have to be about what&#8217;s happening.<br \/>\n  You can learn a lot by just talking to someone. I had a wonderful<br \/>\n  time with Steven Soderbergh because he is a walking encyclopedia.<br \/>\n  He used to talk about the old British films for hours; it was really<br \/>\n  great for me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>: <i>How do you generally work with sound<br \/>\n  and music? How do you allow for the fact that it will change what<br \/>\n  you&#8217;ve done, change how a scene plays?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: You don&#8217;t often get the chance to work<br \/>\n  on things like <em>Lawrence of Arabia<\/em>, where you have big open<br \/>\n  spaces for music and sound, but I often put a shot on the end or<br \/>\n  leave a little something on the beginning or even in the middle<br \/>\n  where I want a particular sound effect to come to enhance something.<br \/>\n  A simple example would be a bell in the distance that you want to<br \/>\n  create the mood; you might leave a little pause for that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\">Music is very important but I think that 99 percent<br \/>\n  of the films made today have too much music; I don&#8217;t like wall-to-wall<br \/>\n  music. If the emotion is there and the scene is playing, why throw<br \/>\n  music all over it? I find it really irritating and disturbing actually.<br \/>\n  [Music] should enhance the film. Steven Soderbergh had a very definite<br \/>\n  idea of what kind of music he wanted; you couldn&#8217;t really put something<br \/>\n  on a scene that you liked unless it was really what he wanted.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>: <i>Any general thought on the way you open<br \/>\n  a film? I would think that you&#8217;re going to be fairly concerned to<br \/>\n  set the right tone and pull your audience in as strongly as you<br \/>\n  can.<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: Well, there have been so many. <em>Erin<br \/>\n  Brockovich<\/em> opens with a clasp of Julia [Robert&#8217;s] face, which<br \/>\n  was extremely effective. If you&#8217;ve got Julia Roberts looking somewhat<br \/>\n  bedazzled, with her hair all fluffy, that&#8217;s a very arresting opening<br \/>\n  to a movie. I don&#8217;t think you necessarily need a lot of padding.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>:<i> When you use landscape or exteriors<br \/>\n  in a film &#8211; like for example the shot of the waterfall in the jungle<br \/>\n  interior in Farewell to the King &#8211; are you using them consciously<br \/>\n  to make a story point of some kind, or perhaps going by feel?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: They&#8217;re generally related to the storytelling,<br \/>\n  or they should be. Setting the scene, giving you the atmosphere<br \/>\n  for the story; they shouldn&#8217;t just be pretty pictures. They should<br \/>\n  be telling part of the story and you should use them that way. That&#8217;s<br \/>\n  where somebody like David Lean was so brilliant because he could<br \/>\n  have those big expenses and then have two people in close up talking<br \/>\n  or whatever, in front of it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>:<i> He was also brilliant with the POV shot,<br \/>\n  really bringing you into sympathy with a character by showing you<br \/>\n  his or her world. The power of POV seems sometimes overlooked or<br \/>\n  underutilized. <\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: Funny enough, there is a very interesting<br \/>\n  POV shot in [<em>Unfaithful<\/em>]. I hadn&#8217;t visualized it when I<br \/>\n  read the script first &#8211; it wasn&#8217;t a POV &#8211; and I hadn&#8217;t registered<br \/>\n  that that was what it was. Interesting things like that Adrian will<br \/>\n  introduce into the film. I do agree with you, I think that it&#8217;s<br \/>\n  very effective at times. I think a lot of long shots should tell<br \/>\n  that, even if they are not exact points of view; they should be<br \/>\n  a point-of-view for the storyteller, in any case.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>: <i>Do you ever concern yourself with what<br \/>\n  the production designer&#8217;s agenda is? <\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: Not generally speaking. An interesting<br \/>\n  thing &#8211; going back to <em>Lawrence of Arabia<\/em> again &#8211; is the<br \/>\n  shot when Ali comes out of the mirage: if you look at the desert,<br \/>\n  John Box, who is a brilliant, added a bit of color to a strip of<br \/>\n  sand leading up to the horizon line; it leads your eye toward Ali<br \/>\n  as he approaches. These are the things that art directors do. That&#8217;s<br \/>\n  a blatant example, but I think that art directors do that kind of<br \/>\n  thing in the smaller and more subtle way. It&#8217;s getting exactly the<br \/>\n  right place for the prop. So, you do work closely with the production<br \/>\n  designer and with the cameraman. The cameraman will sometimes talk<br \/>\n  to me about a series of shots, and what he&#8217;s trying to accomplish,<br \/>\n  which is why I find it helpful to visit the [set].<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>:<i> How important can a single frame be<br \/>\n  for you as an editor?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: (Laughs) I&#8217;ll tell you a funny story really<br \/>\n  that happened years ago on<em> Lawrence of Arabia<\/em>. David and<br \/>\n  I were having a little disagreement about where to cut on a very<br \/>\n  simple shot of someone going through a door and coming into a room.<br \/>\n  I felt you wanted to be surprised at where the subject was going.<br \/>\n  David wanted to cut it in a sort of conventional way, halfway through<br \/>\n  the door. We talked about it for a bit and ended up discussing which<br \/>\n  frame to cut on. He said that there was only one right frame to<br \/>\n  cut on and I said &quot;Well, in that case, if I have a right frame<br \/>\n  and you have a right frame, who is right?&#8217; and he said &quot;I&#8217;m<br \/>\n  the director, so mine is!&#8217; (Laughs) Of course, a frame is important,<br \/>\n  but you can&#8217;t spend hours going crazy thinking about your frame<br \/>\n  &#8211; you just have an instinct about it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>: <i>What have you learned about communicating<br \/>\n  with the director? <\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: Patience is one of the first things you<br \/>\n  learn. (laughs) I used to not think about what I was saying and<br \/>\n  fly off, but now I&#8217;ve toned down. You have to establish that relationship,<br \/>\n  find out where they&#8217;re going and what their idea of film is. I&#8217;ll<br \/>\n  hear the director talking to the actors when watching the dailies,<br \/>\n  in those moments before or after a take. He&#8217;s near the mike and<br \/>\n  his comments come through. Mostly you talk to the director about<br \/>\n  the way he visualizes the film, but they don&#8217;t necessarily tell<br \/>\n  you how to do it. They&#8217;re employing you to come with your ideas.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>MM<\/b>: <i>What do the best directors have in common?<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"text\"><b>AC<\/b>: I think it&#8217;s enthusiasm. Most of them have<br \/>\n  it in a way, but some have a bit extra. They really love their work;<br \/>\n  it comes through to you more.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"During her more than 50 years in the craft, film editor Anne Coates has been a stealth collaborator and ally [&hellip;]","protected":false},"author":1641,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rank_math_lock_modified_date":false,"disable_comments":false,"tpd_featured_posts_arr":"","hide_featured_img_single_post":false,"msn_featured_video":[],"_msn_custom_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[89],"tags":[],"feeds":[],"class_list":["post-1548","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-articles-editing"],"primary_category":{"term_id":89,"name":"Articles - Editing","slug":"articles-editing","taxonomy":"category","url":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/category\/archives\/moviemaking\/editing\/articles-editing\/"},"thumbnail":false,"fimg_url_thumb":false,"featured_img_medium":false,"author_name":"Tim Molloy","author_avatar":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/cdn-cgi\/image\/width=100,height=100,fit=crop,quality=80,format=auto,onerror=redirect,metadata=none\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/IMG_1078.jpg","author_link":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/author\/tim-molloy\/","post_categories":["Articles - Editing"],"parsely":{"version":"1.1.0","meta":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","headline":"Master of the Hidden Cut","url":"http:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/master-of-the-hidden-cut\/","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"http:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/master-of-the-hidden-cut\/"},"thumbnailUrl":"","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":""},"articleSection":"Articles - Editing","author":[{"@type":"Person","name":"Tim Molloy"}],"creator":["Tim Molloy"],"publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"MovieMaker Magazine","logo":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/mm_site_logo-2.svg"},"keywords":[],"dateCreated":"2021-05-22T18:22:16Z","datePublished":"2021-05-22T18:22:16Z","dateModified":"2023-01-31T13:26:32Z"},"rendered":"<script type=\"application\/ld+json\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@type\":\"NewsArticle\",\"headline\":\"Master of the Hidden Cut\",\"url\":\"http:\\\/\\\/www.moviemaker.com\\\/master-of-the-hidden-cut\\\/\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"http:\\\/\\\/www.moviemaker.com\\\/master-of-the-hidden-cut\\\/\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"url\":\"\"},\"articleSection\":\"Articles - Editing\",\"author\":[{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"name\":\"Tim Molloy\"}],\"creator\":[\"Tim Molloy\"],\"publisher\":{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"name\":\"MovieMaker Magazine\",\"logo\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.moviemaker.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2023\\\/01\\\/mm_site_logo-2.svg\"},\"keywords\":[],\"dateCreated\":\"2021-05-22T18:22:16Z\",\"datePublished\":\"2021-05-22T18:22:16Z\",\"dateModified\":\"2023-01-31T13:26:32Z\"}<\/script>","tracker_url":"https:\/\/cdn.parsely.com\/keys\/moviemaker.com\/p.js"},"amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1548"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1641"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1548"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1548\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1548"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1548"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1548"},{"taxonomy":"feeds","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/feeds?post=1548"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}